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twdorris [ECU Input Impedance Mismatch]
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-====== ​Overview ​======+====== ​ECU Input Impedance Mismatch ​======
  
-There are a number of analog inputs available on the 1G and 2G ECU.  Many are used for critical engine operation, but some are available for datalogging [[ExternalSensorList|aftermarket sensors]]. ​ The problem is that some of these inputs are incompatible with some aftermarket sensors. ​ In particular, the 1G EGR temperature input and the 2G baro input have pull up/pull down resistor configurations that some sensors are not capable of driving properly. ​ The solution to this is to "​buffer"​ the input so that the sensor is not directly driving the ECU's input. ​ The circuit and buffer board described below can be used for this purpose. ​ The picture below illustrates the buffer board available for purchase from ECMTuning. 
  
-{{http://www.ecmtuning.com/​images/​forums/typicalinstall.gif}}+There are a number of analog inputs available on the 1G and 2G ECU. Many are used for critical engine operation, but some are available for datalogging [[:externalsensorlist|aftermarket sensors]]The problem is that some of these inputs are incompatible with some aftermarket sensorsIn particular, the 1G EGR temperature input and the 2G baro input have pull up/pull down resistor configurations that some sensors are not capable of driving properly.
  
-**12/​19/​2007:​** We are now accepting orders for these completed units. ​ We have several in stock, ready to ship. 
  
-http://www.ecmtuning.com/​ordering-buffer.html+The solution to this is to "​buffer"​ the input so that the sensor is not directly driving the ECU's inputThe circuit and buffer board described below can be used for this purposeThe picture below illustrates the buffer ​board available for purchase from ECMTuning.
  
-====== Details ======+ 
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 +**01/​01/​2013:​**Due to low demand, we've decided to discontinue this product. ​ Many common sensors now include this type of functionality internally, negating the need for this board. ​ The Omni 4-bar sensor that we sell on our website, for example, has this functionality built in.  Most, if not all, wideband kits these days do too. 
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 +====== ​Connections ====== 
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 +Connect "+5V from ECU" to the ECU's +5V sensor power, pin 23 (Green/Red) on a 1G ECU or pin 81 (Green/​Yellow) on a 2G ECU.  This is also present under the hood at the MAF, TPS and MDP sensors. 
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 +Connect "GND to ECU" to the ECU's sensor ground, pin 24 (Green/​Black) on a 1G ECU or pin 92 (Black) on a 2G ECU.  This is also present under the hood at the MAF, TPS, MDP and coolant temp sensors. 
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 +If the sensor is a 5V sensor that draws little current, like a MAP sensor, connect the sensor'​s power, signal and ground connections to the input side of the buffer circuit assembly. If the sensing device, such as a wideband, has its own power and ground, connect only the sensing device'​s signal wire to the input side of the buffer. In either case, you still must provide +5V and GND to the buffer circuit and you must then insulate any unused wires. 
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 +====== DIY Details ======
  
 The following table lists a set of ECU inputs and their internal pull up/pull down resistor configuration. The following table lists a set of ECU inputs and their internal pull up/pull down resistor configuration.
  
 ^ Input ^ 1G ^ 2G ^ ^ Input ^ 1G ^ 2G ^
-""​EGRTemp"" ​| 10k up | - |+| EGRTemp | 10k up | - |
 | Baro | float/100k down? | 3.3k down | | Baro | float/100k down? | 3.3k down |
-| IAT | 2.2k up / 39k down| 2.2k up / 39k down+| IAT | 2.2k up / 39k down | 2.2k up / 39k down | 
-| Coolant | 2.2k up / 39k down| 2.2k up / 39k down|+| Coolant | 2.2k up / 39k down | 2.2k up / 39k down |
 | MDP | - | 100k down | | MDP | - | 100k down |
 +| Rear O2 | - | 220k down |
  
 Again, the EGRTemp on a 1G and the Baro input on a 2G are problematic for some aftermarket sensors. ​ When feeding certain wideband kits into the EGRTemp input on a 1G, for example, you may see normal A/F ratio readings above 11.5:1 but then the readings flatline there and won't show any value below that. Again, the EGRTemp on a 1G and the Baro input on a 2G are problematic for some aftermarket sensors. ​ When feeding certain wideband kits into the EGRTemp input on a 1G, for example, you may see normal A/F ratio readings above 11.5:1 but then the readings flatline there and won't show any value below that.
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